My friend group's POV public complaints and I would like you guys to make any comments...

[Ramesh D.]

Each box represents a different person in my friend group. Most of them wanted to stay anonymous when making comments.

All comments in this forum post was made to better the server, not ridicule.

There would have been another box if one of my friends didn't leave for a police acadamy meet before writing this. (they might add their comments in a separate reply later)

1) Lack of staff intervention in horrible scenes such as the shootings that happen on Grove St. when a cop even tries to defend themself.

I don’t think that the police officer should get shot at by 5+ other people when in their own police traffic stop. Their excuse for these situations might be “they shot first”. If I am to trust the training of law enforcement departments such as my own, the Dallas County Sheriff's Office, they should not have shot for an invalid reason. Groups such as the Larsons, Swoodens, Hernandez, and many others which have gone down due to the pressure of the community that was put on them - or at least they do not commit the crimes that they used to. If a cop was “shooting first”, I think that the appropriate action for the situation would be to clip it and ship it to the appropriate internal affairs group of their department, not shooting at that law enforcement department member because “they shot first”. My friend group (it was called the 'Swoodens' back then) got warned for RDM for killing every cop on duty like this group did (we had a roleplay attached to it of course). This group does the same thing. Doesn't even get warned. Why the special treatment?

These groups on the server that still live today are "mildly" toxic, too:

“You shot first lmao, any issues you have sort it out in rp not crying in discord”
“Just you seem to be lying dead on the floor and complaining”
“Then why are you crying in discord?”

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2) Applied LEOs complaining in character about something like “I shot you in the head I have no clue how you’re still alive” when checking in /me for a player’s injuries. No one should be complaining about the injuries that their character SHOULD be evaluating.


Also, let me say that the change making headshots do the same damage as body shots made this impossible to tell. It makes everything confusing when exchanging /me-s for player injuries.
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In my experience, playing on TXDPSRP has been great for the most part, but sometimes it gets rough. For example, I feel the professionalism of law enforcement officers is coming down a lot. In my eyes it seems as though they are joking around way more and not taking it as seriously. Saying “Don’t care bozo. Ratio-ed” and other jokes, I just don’t think should be said, at least while on as an LEO. Like yes, it is funny, but you’re supposed to be professional. Another thing to add is the server population is dying and getting smaller. There might be some ways to fix this by advertising, but I don’t think that is allowed. I feel if we expand the population of the server while recruiting more staff members, it would be a great idea. Because of the pop. being so low most of the time, my friends and I never get on. More people equals better roleplay, if the right amount of staff is on at all times. Finally, the last thing I like to add is the “realistic” aspect of the roleplay. I’ve seen officers being hit by a city bus and get up fine, shot multiple times in the face and walk away, driving totaled cars down the road at 125+ mph and many more. This goes along with civilians as well being shot and still talking afterwards, ramming multiple times and driving away safely, launching 30 feet in the air and having “no damage”. The list could go on. I just feel we might need stricter rules for driving and possibly having one staff member watching all scenes, in case of this occurrence, just an idea though.

I can no longer enjoy the TXDPSRP server because there's nobody on the server anymore. As well as the booger gang which totally ruins the whole RP experience. All you guys did was tell them to let off the Gang RP for a day and then they were back to doing gang RP the next day. At this point I'm considering finding a new server. I want to stay on this server so much but I can’t enjoy a server if there’s nobody ever on. I would mention more but I haven’t been on the server long enough to experience any other flaws.

Quality of RP over the 1 year and 2 months I’ve been on the server has been going down at a fast pace. People need to start to try and do more in-depth roleplays. I think that ESX will help this a lot. I was on as a cop the other day and there were just 2 cops on the radio, and there was at least 8 different calls including bank robberies. For example, the type of calls I saw were cop kidnapping, random shootings out of your car (drive-bys), not fearing your life enough, etc. No fear for life is a big thing, like when 2 armed robbers try and hold a cop at gunpoint, and they just run away like nothing happened. Then if/when we shoot at them I feel like I would get punished for RDM and NITRP, I would like to see the no fear for life rule be enforced. I think it's perfectly fine if you're being held up by one person they could take actions, but if held up at gunpoint from 2+ people you would have to comply. If you were the only LEO on it would be fine just to ignore them or just not comply because you would not be able to get helped or saved by others. I also feel like you can't use discord to talk over in-game things like “come over here I'm dead / held up“ because if you’re dead or being held up you would not be able to just tell them without them the person that shot you or the person that is holding you up and they try and play it off like “oh i'm just checking up over here“ when you know for sure that they are using discord/meta-gaming with this I feel like if your trying to roleplay (the rightish way) you would have to be in a radio and talk it there and not in a discord call. Finally the last thing I would like to say is if we ever get a paid promo in the server, I think it would be good, because just in the last 2 weeks we had 61 players on at once. I'm pretty sure I can speak for the server here when I say that the server for what it is, needs to have that pop more often I'm not saying 61 players every day but at least 30+ people on at peak times and if we get a paid promo I think it would boost the server at least by 2-3x.

 

[Peter H. GW-10]

Very valid points from all, hopefully this reaches the hills and mountains so change can be seen!

 

[Brezy]

I like this. However, I have to say, a paid promotion is some what of a good idea. With working with/helping paid promoters and past experience aside from FiveM, I don't think anyone would want to promote the server at this time. First, the social medias should grow a little bit - with this, the community will be known more. Not only through FiveM, but through Instagram, Twitter, and maybe YouTube.

 

[Ramesh D.]

I like this. However, I have to say, a paid promotion is some what of a good idea. With working with/helping paid promoters and past experience aside from FiveM, I don't think anyone would want to promote the server at this time. First, the social medias should grow a little bit - with this, the community will be known more. Not only through FiveM, but through Instagram, Twitter, and maybe YouTube.

maybe someone should make a tiktok to show some "funny moments"??? i can share some clips with whoever ends up managing a tiktok page like that

 

[Brezy]

maybe someone should make a tiktok to show some "funny moments"??? i can share some clips with whoever ends up managing a tiktok page like that

It'll be funny yeah, but every once in a while at least. Tiktok is really awkward with growing, sometimes you'd think the funny moments would go far but sometime they don't. But with FiveM servers, they manage to go up pretty well. If the server was to make a Tiktok I defiantly recommend some videos that will show off the server, and some that are comedy. "Comedy" as in using the sounds that are trending to make a clean video that's always on point.

 

[Jaxon Bravo 1A-18]

These points are very important and needs to be put into action. Rules need to be more enforced no matter who it is. Rules are there for a reason. Very very valid points. This is important and is very appreciated.. hower like Mungo said if staff watch over every scene playere would feel forced to roleplay a certain way which is not needed. However when somthing bad happends on a scene and someone is breaking the server rules this is when you can report who ever Is breaking the rules. And we as staff will take the according action.

 

[tropicz]

I don't think having staff watch over every scene is a good thing. This is a Roleplay server. Cops are not invincible, shit happens. If staff watched over every scene then we would be controlling the RP which would not be fun and it would be how it is now with no roleplay because we would be controlling everything you do based on if we like it or not.

This is supposed to be a Roleplay server, it was a Roleplay server that turned to a Freemode server that turned to a freemode/rockstar photo contest server. I think COVID-19 played a huge role into what the server has turned into as well because the entire year that everyone was quarantining people were on the server 24/7 so I do think that the lack of players on the server is from people that played for so long and are just over the same shit.

Personally, when I get on the server I try to spread people out from one area, but no one listens as usual but there is nothing that I can do to force them to move because at the end of the Day it is a roleplay server and people are free to do what they wish as long as it doesn't violate the rules. I also think a large part of the current in-server issues come from the people who constantly play on it, those people don't realize that these discussions that happen in the all-users chat and here are about them. The people that interact with police every 5-10 minutes then see these posts just forget that they are the people that are constantly on meaning that these complaints about dogshit "roleplay" are about their groups or them.

I will say these groups like The Lost and GSF or whatever the dumbass Grove St. gang is, those groups are not RP they are glorified GTA:O/Freemode groups that like to shoot. Also, have to remember no one actually knows what Gang RP actually consists of because no one is or has ever encountered a gang in their life. There is more to gang shit than just shooting people. But as I said no one knows what roleplay actually is.

Currently, the server staff is working on a refreshed, updated, and new set of rules for the server that will come later this year. Most of the stuff from discussions and what not are or will be listed in there.

Each box represents a different person in my friend group. Most of them wanted to stay anonymous when making comments.

All comments in this forum post was made to better the server, not ridicule.

There would have been another box if one of my friends didn't leave for a police acadamy meet before writing this. (they might add their comments in a separate reply later)

I could be miss understanding this point but If I am understanding it correctly, you are misunderstanding the rule or whatever it is regarding NVL (Not Valuing Life). This rule is specifically for things like, If you are held up at gunpoint and you pull your weapon and shoot the person. If you are driving on the highway and purposely turn in front of high-speed pursuit causing a vehicle to crash into you.

That is something else as well, the majority of the player-base doesn't understand the basic rules we set. They always find some way to twist it into their own thing that is completely wrong. The same way for the rule about realistic driving people were to stupid to actually understand what it covered and meant and the rule eventually got removed.

2) Applied LEOs complaining in character about something like “I shot you in the head I have no clue how you’re still alive” when checking in /me for a player’s injuries. No one should be complaining about the injuries that their character SHOULD be evaluating.


Also, let me say that the change making headshots do the same damage as body shots made this impossible to tell. It makes everything confusing when exchanging /me-s for player injuries.

I dont see how this makes much sense. If we were to use the logic that officers want in this situation then no matter how you went down, you would always have to perma your character, This would include Law Enforcement meaning that you would then no longer be LEO because that character would have died. When people say they were not shot in the head it is because they do not want to perma-kill their character and that is their choice.

The headshot damage being changed has nothing to do with that and frankly, it shouldn't play a role in it. The change of the damage with headshots prolongs a situation, that person or yourself cannot be shot in the head and everything is over. There is now more that can happen in that story, but no one sees that because once again, no one roleplays.

 

[Mungo K. 1A-10]

Hi,

I'm going to address these points with criticisms but also agreements for the points you and your friends raised, as well as provide answers and advice for some easily solvable problems I see with the statements.

Firstly, when it comes to staff intervention, I agree - some scenes don't get dealt with as quickly as I and other staff might like them too. As staff on TX, we have many policies to follow when it comes to actually punishing someone and there is a strenuous process behind the scenes to ensure this is followed. We have to have some form of proof that the situation actually happened in the first place, such as logs, recordings or another staff members word for it; without that, we will not punish anyone but rather monitor the situation. Understandably, people realise that when we're not online, you can break the rules, right? Wrong. The biggest tool you all have against people who break the rules is a recording software. With a clip of whatever happened, you can report them using this link (https://forums.txdps-rp.com/form/player-report.12/select). Reports get dealt with. Until I start seeing reports come in, which they don't, I cannot take anything anyone says seriously. With regards to big gangs that just play deathmatch on the server, we will take action against them and severe punishment will incur if this behaviour continues.

I'm going to amalgamate points 2 and 3 into one since they are both under the semantic of "population and professionalism". I agree, I've been disgraced at the behaviour of some LEOs, both on the server and off the server. However, we are taking action on those that think they can walk over moderation staff and others by means of policy change or punishment. This year will be an important year for the server and those that have the pride to stay and see the project through whilst we improve are the ones I want staying. Those that complain but provide no solutions mean nothing to me. Nonetheless, I can say that policy change is improving and I implore you to REPORT those who are unprofessional as an LEO to their respective internal affairs team. I speak for DCSO, DC, GW and FAA when I say we will make sure that action happens, as well as an in-depth investigation too.

With your final point about roleplay quality, telling people to do more "in-depth" roleplay won't work. I haven't seen anything creative on the server for a while now and it starts with YOU. If you want to see the change, you must start making that change yourself. We can only assist and facilitate that. I want to see the suggestion forms filled with improvements as well as solutions, I want to see people suggesting new things for their departments and stepping up and helping rather than going into a private discord and slandering (which we see happen). Paid promotion will not work because the majority of the time, the people on social platforms charge ridiculous amounts and bring mostly children to the server. I personally believe we should enforce an 18+ age restriction on the server and go from there rather than allow children onto the server which has an increasing track record of ending poorly.

Whilst I'm at it, the idea of having staff watch over scenes will not work because you need some sense of freedom, not a gestapo type regime where we watch everything you do. Reports are your biggest friend. I check reports everyday and investigate everyday. If you have a serious problem with it, report it.

Anything said is open to question or interpretation.

M. K

 

[Jenson D.]

As well as the booger gang which totally ruins the whole RP experience. All you guys did was tell them to let off the Gang RP for a day and then they were back to doing gang RP the next day.

Just because you aren't used to gang RP doesn't mean you need to complain about it.

The majority of times grove (not "booger gang") end up shooting cops are due to cops getting involved with a lot of situations that have nothing to do with them (some should be left for sub-departments such as vice/gang unit to investigate) plus the fact that a lot of times cops fail to value their life such as one time where a single cop had 3 guns aimed at him and was told to leave the area which he failed to do then he was told to get out of his vehicle which he also failed to do (with 3 guns aimed at him the entire time).

Another thing I find stupid is how when cops get a shots fired call they then go to straight to the area (and usually end up in the middle of a gunfight) then complain when they get killed rather than doing the logical thing: have a few units scoping the area out to make sure it's safe for other units to arrive then if it isn't set a perimeter at a safe distance and move in after a while when it seems safer.